tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post1551166174566775115..comments2023-06-01T04:41:28.669-04:00Comments on an undercurrent of hostility: Another Primate Steps UpAnnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06944928044277724293noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-47513328737337487132007-06-24T19:01:00.000-04:002007-06-24T19:01:00.000-04:00Who is the someone?Who is the someone?Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944928044277724293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-42985575261317276012007-06-24T16:41:00.000-04:002007-06-24T16:41:00.000-04:00Someone is pointing to your blog as a woman priest...Someone is pointing to your blog as a woman priest w/out a feminist agenda. Frankly, I don't know what a feminist agenda is. It just seems to me that you're one of the schimatics and you've aligned yourself w/ people who would have never ordained you in the first place or who might possibly depose you. I find that terribly sad. It is horrifying to me that some people are so focused on being "right" that they've forgotten what it means to love. If we can't work through our differences together, if we won't work through our differences together, if we refuse to come to the table with people with whom we disagree then we are not exhibiting the love of Christ. We're not doing anything to heal a broken world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-25652924030109770602007-06-21T15:17:00.000-04:002007-06-21T15:17:00.000-04:00We need to be praying for God's spirit to send ren...We need to be praying for God's spirit to send renewal, reconciliation, and His insight into all our denominations, that's for certain.<BR/><BR/>Grace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-574584936071842852007-06-16T20:21:00.000-04:002007-06-16T20:21:00.000-04:00Christie, I've heard that too. If only we could ha...Christie, I've heard that too. If only we could have Catechesis friendly people at the top who also affirm historic faith and belief. Sigh.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944928044277724293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-14749634380761073482007-06-16T20:19:00.000-04:002007-06-16T20:19:00.000-04:00Thanks for the various comments.Grace, I hope you ...Thanks for the various comments.<BR/><BR/>Grace, I hope you have a great vacation. I don't mind questions at all. I think the big critical issue, for churches like Good Shepherd, is not the particular relationship with the bishop (we have worked very hard to be on good and amicable terms with ours) but questions of succsession. Should we ever leave Good Shepherd, for any reason, it would virtually impossible for them to call an orthodox priest. The bishop wourldn't accept anyone into the diocese they would want to call. Its not so much the people in the pews--most and many believing and faithful--but about clergy and bishops who insist on leading the flock astray. And, I think (as the issues in South Carolina show) it is becoming increasingly hard and impossible to believe and affirm the historic creeds and doctrines of the church, as clergy, in TEC without being in trouble.<BR/><BR/>But, Alan, I agree, the human person is prone towards division and while I'm optomistic about the future, I do think we have to be really purposeful and careful about the way forward.<BR/><BR/>Anything new that is created isn't going to be sin free. That's not possible. But I do think it can be Godly and FUNCTIONAL, which at this point TEC is not (as an institution). The Anglican Communion is poised on the brink of the opportunity to be a healthy Chrsitian functioning world wide body. I just hope we don't blink and land back in the mud.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944928044277724293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-78082315480449950172007-06-16T17:53:00.000-04:002007-06-16T17:53:00.000-04:00This is out of context, but . . . Mary Gray Reeves...This is out of context, but . . . Mary Gray Reeves who was just elected Bishop of El Camino Real is a trained catechist. <BR/><BR/>She was the first person who welcomed and gave me some initial training at Emmanuel Episcopal Church in Fullerton, CA when I came over from the Evangelical Free Church before she left for her training in New Zealand. Unfortunately, from her writing I don't believe her to be all that orthodox any more. sighkristifleahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04689119769194286654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-332908323709958932007-06-14T09:45:00.000-04:002007-06-14T09:45:00.000-04:00Anne+,I have a fairly positive view on this. Howe...Anne+,<BR/><BR/>I have a fairly positive view on this. However, there are two reasons why a reasonable person might be concerned.<BR/><BR/>First, the history of Continuing Churches is one of endless fracturing, often due to the "Purple Plague." Only recently has there been any significant level of consolidation.<BR/><BR/>Second, the GS primates themselves have complained about the alphabet soup of American entities, and that "the soup must be consumed." Now, they appear to be doing the same things with CANA, AMiA, FACA, etc. While it all seems to be collegial, one who knows 2000 years of church history may be a bit uneasy.<BR/><BR/>I am someone who regards the current exodus from TEC as more akin to Dunkirk than a sinking ship. An iceberg is not actively malevolent; TEC, like the Germans approaching Dunkirk, is. The evacuation from Dunkirk was a crazy quilt of ships and boats, but it was very effective, and allowed the British Army to be reconstituted later fairly quickly.<BR/><BR/>I tend to consider what is happening is something like Dunkirk, but also in the process creating facts on the ground. Putting together this and other events, a faithful successor body to TEC with wide international recognition, bishops, parishes, seminaries, and even a retirement program can be brought into existence at need.<BR/><BR/>This picture will require a lot of people to behave contrary to human nature and turn over authority, joyfully. But then all of Christianity is contrary to human nature. Praise God!<BR/><BR/>AlanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35868329.post-91549467730716585162007-06-14T08:48:00.000-04:002007-06-14T08:48:00.000-04:00Hi, Mother Anne,I'm leaving for two days on a vaca...Hi, Mother Anne,<BR/><BR/>I'm leaving for two days on a vacation with my students, but I wanted to comment before headin out.<BR/><BR/>In one sense, I can see what you're sharing. God works through everything, and we should always rejoice for any means to share the gospel.<BR/><BR/>But, I'm concerned that this whole situation is also going to lead to further schism and division in TEC. I mean why should Christians love each other, hang in together, and work through our differences if there's always going to be this back door.<BR/><BR/>And, surely we can never have a pure visible church, anyway. The tares will always be mixed with the wheat, until the Lord returns.<BR/><BR/>Also, what prevents Episcopalians who are having serious problems getting along with their Diocesan bishop from simply seeking alternate oversight from an Episcopal bishop already consecrated here in the states? ALPO, :) I think it's called. <BR/><BR/>Mother Anne, hope you're feeling ok about my questions. I'm genuinely trying to understand.<BR/><BR/>Grace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com